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[Jawa242]

I'm no lawyer "I will pursue legal action" is a lil vague is was the last message i got from either of you despite the pm trying to figure out where to go from there.

please look back and find out actually sent that to you... it was not me. Thats why I asked that you stop publicly saying that I'm going to sue you... I am not, I will not, and I can not. Does that help clarify?

when i invested a good amount of money in the cds being shipped to my house i took it as theft since it was spontaneous, already paid for, and i was stuck with cds that i ordered for randy.

sorry dude, any way you look at it... not theft. You gotta remember what I do for a living day after day, have been doing since 2002, and what I have my degree in...

Now that I am done defending the "suing" issue and the "theft" issue:

once again, please PM me your physical mailing address and all of those items you listed will be on the way to you.

One more thing: FOR EVERYONE ON THE BOARD:


The last time I checked this thread, I was at work and got a call and had to stop writing before I said something really important that I dont think alot of people here understand or realize:

All the money that is made on ANYTHING dr; from all 100 HHr sales, to the four albums that have been on itunes since April and also the upcoming "box set" that is hitting iTunes in April of this year; every penny of all that money is going into David's checking account that Gretchen made me power of attorney for back in 2007. So, for everyone who is accusing me making money on all these "products", its actually going into a checking account that belongs to the family. I am just the overseer of the funds... The only thing that that doesnt include is the book - the first $1,000 made off the book sales went to a savings bond for David's nephew, then the remainder of the money that I have been making off of the book now goes intoi the checking account. I have not, not ever will, benefit 1 penny from anything DR. I hope that clears up some accusations made towards me about everything always being about making money. Its not my money, and it never will be. I'm just the account manager, and because I am the account manager, I have also received permission from his family to use the money in the account as "overhead" to release other products... Thats how we paid for HHr, thats how I will pay for the yearly fees on the tracks that will be in the "box set". Thats how I pay for shiping and packaging on everything I sell that has to do with David from the book to HHr.

[bobnugget]

I'm no lawyer "I will pursue legal action" is a lil vague is was the last message i got from either of you despite the pm trying to figure out where to go from there.

please look back and find out actually sent that to you... it was not me. Thats why I asked that you stop publicly saying that I'm going to sue you... I am not, I will not, and I can not. Does that help clarify?

if you read what i said: as a result of what Brian/jawa said to Gretchen "they" (mostly meaning gretchen) might pursue legal action if i do anything more GLU. not because I've done anything wrong per se, but because i questioned brain and we got into a bit of an arrangement. I say this because i believe it to be true not slander.
however if this gets sorted out i would be happy to.

"I will pursue legal action" and "both fines and/or imprisonment" is Gretchen's words. i didn't necessarily say it was you but partly caused by your influence since she never acted this way towards me until you spoke with her. sorry man but its true.

when i invested a good amount of money in the cds being shipped to my house i took it as theft since it was spontaneous, already paid for, and i was stuck with cds that i ordered for randy.

sorry dude, any way you look at it... not theft.
All the money that is made on ANYTHING dr is going into David's checking account that Gretchen made

i say theft because you took my album art by sending the not for sale "FREE VERSION" to people who paid money for a real copy.

im trying to get you to understand what i have been told and my side of whats going on. be a lil open minded here.

[Jawa242]

i say theft because you took my album art by sending the not for sale "FREE VERSION" to people who paid money for a real copy.

im trying to get you to understand what i have been told and my side of whats going on. be a lil open minded here.

PM sent...

[SpaZ]

Ah, the good old days. To clarify, I left before Skinny Puppy went on, which you were shocked by. My plan was to see the opener Tweaker and then hop on the T to Cambridge to see Mellowdrone at the Middle East upstairs. That's the only time I pulled off two concerts in the same night. We talked at that VAST concert, too...and were at a few others at the same time, but before I knew you (based on your myspace list of concerts attended).

I know when the old board upgraded to this newer version, I didn't really post much (not that I do now). There wasn't really much going on.

As far as "spam"...correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't all of the profit from the David Reilly stuff go to a scholarship fund for his nephew? The stuff Brian has sold anyway...I can't remember if that includes the book or not. So if that's the case, then the only person profiting is his nephew so he can go to college. The rest just covers the cost of making the stuff. As I said, correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jawa242]

You are 50% right: all the monet made on the book goes to his nephew.... all the money made on HHr and iTunes are going into a checking account set up by his family, and that account is used to pay for any overhead we had/have from production, shipping etc

[sabian11]

Hello all Long time lurker first time poster here. I usually do get involved on forums but after reading this I felt the need to jump on. Right now I have a very nice copy of HHRx in my hands and if it wasent for Brians work I wouldn't have it. I don't know why you guys keep puttin him in a position where he needs to defend himself, from what I've seen Brian has carried the torch on getting David's music out music that David worked hard on but couldn't release because of his death. Brian I appreciate what you've done and I thank you I don't think you need to defend yourself on this you did a good job and did it the right way. This board is keeping David's and GLU's music alive!! There is no other place to go on the web that has as much info on GLU as this so to me it is obvious why you posted the sale here. Everyone else needs to quit bitchin and cryin and enjoy the damn music!!!! Peace to all!!

[asamorris]

Hello all Long time lurker first time poster here. I usually do get involved on forums but after reading this I felt the need to jump on. Right now I have a very nice copy of HHRx in my hands and if it wasent for Brians work I wouldn't have it. I don't know why you guys keep puttin him in a position where he needs to defend himself, from what I've seen Brian has carried the torch on getting David's music out music that David worked hard on but couldn't release because of his death. Brian I appreciate what you've done and I thank you I don't think you need to defend yourself on this you did a good job and did it the right way. This board is keeping David's and GLU's music alive!! There is no other place to go on the web that has as much info on GLU as this so to me it is obvious why you posted the sale here. Everyone else needs to quit bitchin and cryin and enjoy the damn music!!!! Peace to all!!

Yes, Brian has put in a lot of hard work. Work that we are grateful for, and that he should be proud of.

However, the controversy has been resolved. We are all in understanding now of how we all saw things, and have reached a relative agreement. We no longer need (and Luke, I'm looking at you) to keep bringing these things up on the public forum.

with that said, welcome to the board, or at least as a registered member, and I hope you actively participate here in the future. It's always nice to see the board growing.

[gthesob]

I'm glad this all finally came to a head so you can get it behind you. It's been building for time now.

I never had a problem with Jawa's threads. For one thing, he made it clear from the beginning he wasn't profitting from it. For another, he's keeping the torch lit as the new guy said and you don't do that by being silent. Look how much more active this board has been in the last year or so. Look at my join date, I have seen some slow years here since the mass exodus after the busy period (I clearly remember Mila's almost lifesize cameltoe on my screen). Not to mention at two or three previous incarnations of this board over the past decade or so.

I see nothing wrong with selling his music knowing that sales are going to David's family and towards HHRx. How else would we have ever seen that album? I bought HHRx (as well as every other GLU/WAW/Fluzee/Reilly CD) but I haven't got any of the newly unearthed solo stuff because I refuse to touch iTunes. As far as Amazon goes, I feel weird about paying for mp3's despite wanting the stuff. It bugs me to not have it as the die hard fan and completionist I am but I never complained because it's the family's right and choice.

I do agree that it would be nice to have the merch threads separate. Maybe you can get Jeff and Gretchen to agree to some GLU shirts getting produced.

I can also upload if needed. I seem to recall bobnugget saying his upload speed sucks.

Relax and remember why we're all here.

[bobnugget]

I can also upload if needed. I seem to recall bobnugget saying his upload speed sucks.

fixed. hellofa winter here.
so much for global warming, 3 feet of snow go figure.

[Jawa242]

For the record: me and Luke have settled everything and hashed everything out, maturally for once, through a series of PMs. We have also come to an agreement that benefits both of us, and everyone here on the forum in regards to the stuff I have as well as the Tribute itself.

What that said, I would like to like move forward from this "topic", lol



also, thank you all for caring enough to post your feelings honestly. I think more good than bad came from this thread, as hard as it was for some of us to swallow in the beginning.

*GROUP HUG!!!!*

[bobnugget]

cool

now the tee shirt issue
if its cool with everyone i think it would be cool to do some glu shirts

[lovely//assassin_]

it might be cool if they were done the right way and not all cheesy-like, but that's just my opinion.

[gthesob]

I can also upload if needed. I seem to recall bobnugget saying his upload speed sucks.

fixed. hellofa winter here.
so much for global warming, 3 feet of snow go figure.

Our high/lows are only about 65/45 here

[gthesob]

it might be cool if they were done the right way and not all cheesy-like, but that's just my opinion.

That's always a good way to start. The mantis logo is an obvious potential starting point.

[gludude]

I'm sorry asa, but I've skimmed throughout this post and I gotta say
that I am in total disagreement. For the first part, I wouldn't have a physical copy of How Humans R(X) without that post. Every post you outlined has something to do with David/GLU (including tributes). To call this spam is ludicrous. I feel in a way that this post is biting the hand that feeds. Brian in particular has gone to great lengths to produce something physical for of this cd along with downloadable content of other DR/GLU material. As for the tributes I believe some of the people on this board have contributed to it and is still related to GLU/DR. One of the driving forces of this board since David's passing has been the possibility of his solo cd coming out (at least in my opionion).
For the most part the people on this board are passionate about GLU/DR and every post that was outlined as $$$ is a post from someone who is passionate about GLU/DR. I for one am very thankful that this board does still exist, but part of the reason I still frequent this board is for the updates of the release of the album and possible material I have not heard yet. If you feel that this board has too many $$$ posts then feel free to create new non-$$$ posts to bump the $$$ down or reply to non-$$$ topics. I apologize for not reading this topic post by post word by word and I realize I may restating points of replies of this post, but I had to pitch my two cents. I've been part of this board in the earlier days as well and it's a true shame that we lost the original one (how I wish I could remember Davids posts). The problem with this board (if its a real problem) is not the $$$ posts but the creation of new non-$$$ posts. If you don't want to deal with the "spam" posts then don't read them plain and simple.

update: I read through the whole series of posts in this topic and although my post is not needed I
am still posting it since I feel passionate about it and I took some time to write it. Glad to see things are better than what this topic started out as.

Rock on.