David Reilly's singing

[silvercrank]

its nice to see his progression. maybe its just me, but im starting to like the dr stuff more that the glu stuff *slaps herself* i mean damn i love empty and UOTF, but perhaps im growing up (old) hehehe

[Smell the Vapors]

I know how you feel, the Solo stuff in my opinion is better, even though I will always love GLU, but... I like david's evolution as a musician, his lyrics are heartfelt, I really like hearing the acoustic guitar I don't know it's just on a different level.

[medicatedtotheoneilove]

Honestly almost the very first thing I noticed about GLU was that I really didn't like the lyrics. Sometimes I think they sound kind of awkward... They're almost too literal for me or something. And honestly... kind of juvenile. I thought some of the lyrics on Empty were pretty good, and a few songs off of Life In the So-Called Space Age, but to be frank most of the other lyrics of all the other songs I don't really care for. They're just not nearly as profound as I want them to be. Same with his solo stuff. It just doesn't... flow.

[Dr Wily]

Poor. Taste.

On a few levels.

[silvercrank]

no i dont agree with that at all.

i think the instument parts on everything from glu all the way to RTA/Fluzee and the solo material is good quality if not higher quality stuff. THe lyrics seemed age appropriate, i think what he dealt with was real and i rather listen to than than a stupid nickelback song about how he loves a girl and she screwed him over when you know that guy wrote it for a radio hit and not out of being honest with himself.

for example. listen to "here we go now" or "7/amy" or "Just a clear mind" or "say goodbye" (my fav d.r. song and not for the title - thats some weird irony there, but n.m.--) like, christ, not profound? what do you want- to get in his head? lol. What i mean is, thats like from the heart; i like that. <-----my reference is pertaining to other musicians who had true-to-themselves-lyrics but when the band(s) got "big" numerous musicians admitted in interviews that they got colder and distant b/c they "didnt want so much of themselves out in the public" for example Billy Corgan did that with the last 3 SP albums...thats why those ones sucked ass...with the exception of the song "white spider"... *tangent*

the fact that he pumped out all those tunes in such a short amount of time, and then revised and revised them (and allowed us to hear the process) is pretty #### open-- open to our opinions and criticisms and such-- it also showed his devotion to producing something for not just himself but for us too... its almost like he's talking TO us in his solo lyrics, i mean some of them you can tell he's referring to induviduals, but hey you've listened, i think you understand.

[SAYING GOODBYE is the best song ive heard in a loooooooooonng time.
exception of protishead and sneaker pimps cuz im weird like that lol] now that song flows...the melody is redundant but i like that sort of thing...esp b/c the lyrics jump situations per verse ooh i love that. i could loop it liek 80x...earlier this morning i swore i listened it like 10x in a row... anyway...

but you get my drift?

*your're so far away/ i wish that you could be here to see how things could change (chord change) - Change -ohh ohh ohh- things they keep on changin'* deedle-e-e-dee-dah..

[medicatedtotheoneilove]

Yeah but I think you guys are all scared to criticise GLU. Here's me being bluntly honest: A lot of GLU's lyrics are what I would consider juvenile and I really don't like David Reilly's vocals on Fool or in the live Arizona videos. I think his solo stuff is really good, but again, the lyrics irk me a little bit. I just think a lot GLU's lyrics are very simple, have bad rhyming schemes, and sometimes I think they're just plain badly written. That's me being HYPER critical. But I ALWAYS love the music (instrument) aspect of GLU and that's why I love them so much.

[medicatedtotheoneilove]

And regardless if he was having a bad day or not, David can barely hit any notes in the Arizona videos.

[silvercrank]

scared?

i remember posting to david about how much i HATE love will complicate...that song disappeared from the links, but ugh..and it had some good potential too... oh and i HATED the way fluzee's 7 was recorded, i reeber being like wtf is this a DEMO OR ALBUM - bu the songs are raw so its nice to compare that to the finished ones nowadays... - but in regards to the voice i think he gets pitchy on nothing and fool but i always skip that one anyway..... omg and my vinyl of no more love is so high pitched...*ears bleed*

i think ive never seen the AZ vids. i can comment on thst rite now but i will l8r. what about other vids? ive never seen any.

[Dr Wily]

Yeah but I think you guys are all scared to criticise GLU. Here's me being bluntly honest: A lot of GLU's lyrics are what I would consider juvenile and I really don't like David Reilly's vocals on Fool or in the live Arizona videos. I think his solo stuff is really good, but again, the lyrics irk me a little bit. I just think a lot GLU's lyrics are very simple, have bad rhyming schemes, and sometimes I think they're just plain badly written. That's me being HYPER critical. But I ALWAYS love the music (instrument) aspect of GLU and that's why I love them so much.

I just don't really feel like talking trash about the art of a guy that hasn't even been dead for a month, and I think the fact that that hasn't occured to you makes your use of the word 'juvenile' somewhat ironic.

And regardless if he was having a bad day or not, David can barely hit any notes in the Arizona videos.

...Are you on drugs? Why do you keep bringing this up? Your opinions on the 'Arizona video' (and let's not forget the song 'Fool') have been submitted into public record a couple of times now.

[silvercrank]

yeah!! he did an awesome job altogether. hes so talented. from making music soince he was 6 and recording songs in his bedroom at what? not even 20 and releasing it on and getting signed to a major label by age 21, i mean #### dude, who else can do that? considering his circumstances, i cant believe he made it though everything that he did. i mean i dont know how you can be that harsh about his voice, about him.

dave isnt like every other artist out there where you can make bland black and white judgements about this or that, that isnt fair and it isnt right. i dont think you're lookin at it the way we are. you see it as 'scared to say bad things' but its like err we kinda have a connection to a guy whose pretty much opened up to us and put so much of himself out there.

would you be that cold and cut off from someone you felt close to, like a friend or a relative? no, because you know thenm as an induvidual, and you know their complexities and who/how they are. its downright wrong to just simplistically judge his and his work on a few human flaws. yeah theres always parts that ppl dont like but in the long run, if you really like it, its not necessary to prove this or that flaw...we all like his music, and him.

and thats just unethical to try and get ppl #### about a dead guy! i might dislike love will complicate but im not gonna say 'his voice sucked' because a)i dont think it sucked i love his voice and b) thats cruel.

[gludude]

Yeah but I think you guys are all scared to criticise GLU. Here's me being bluntly honest: A lot of GLU's lyrics are what I would consider juvenile and I really don't like David Reilly's vocals on Fool or in the live Arizona videos. I think his solo stuff is really good, but again, the lyrics irk me a little bit. I just think a lot GLU's lyrics are very simple, have bad rhyming schemes, and sometimes I think they're just plain badly written. That's me being HYPER critical. But I ALWAYS love the music (instrument) aspect of GLU and that's why I love them so much.

i may said this already, but different strokes different folks... i think u have under-estimated the majority of the people on this board. it's not that people are scared to criticize, it's just that most of us have the common descency not to. This is a board for those who support david reilly / GLU not to put them down. You can be as blunt as you want, but if u didn't pass on this negativity when david was alive, then why do you do it now? You may not have been around for the earlier board (which was unfortunately wiped out) but when up off the floor was botched david got a lot of crap from the board, even though it wasnt his fault.
personally, i have nothing really negative to say about glu/david reilly... i can say one of the my least favorite songs is "fool" but i personally consider david one of my favorite singer/songwriters of all time. i, like many on this board have been hooked since "no more love"... you may call his lyrics "juvenille" but whats so juvenille bout the lyrics he wrote?
anyways i was about to get carried away with this post, but i do remember we're all glu fans to some extent. just remember he wrote from the heart, he made his art his life and there's nothing juvenille about that... there's no need to justify your opinions, everyone got the right to their own, there's no need to keep on bringing it up.

[silvercrank]

You may not have been around for the earlier board (which was unfortunately wiped out) but when up off the floor was botched david got a lot of crap from the board, even though it wasnt his fault.

i cannot but help to feel responsible for that whole situation. i feel so guilty cuz i know he was pissed that it got #### up and i kept arguing with him why he wouldnt sue them or whatever -- forgetting the fact that he's working to survive, its not like he was a millionaire-- and my anger overrode my logic and i instigated something that was so worthless in the long run except to ooze negativity at a man who worked so hard for all of us....i can help but feel guilty esp. since he died...

...but i do remember we're all glu fans to some extent. just remember he wrote from the heart, he made his art his life and there's nothing juvenille about that... there's no need to justify your opinions, everyone got the right to their own, there's no need to keep on bringing it up.

yeah we all have a common respect for each other...and i've learned to not react without thinking...(note: i used to cause too much crap on the old board. i swear, never ever again.) we all know glu fans are hard to find anyway theres no point to try an alienate eachother anyway.

oh and medicated, i think the main point you should get out of this is that all of us kinda understand the depth of the pain and ecperiences in his life, so we choose not to add more to what already was/is. This is a place of positivity and solace, and i think this is a forum unlike many other site because of its emotional depth and connection to the man himself. its like talking #### in his home turf, where it be his house, his grave or here. the main difference is that he cannot be looked at as a recording artist, but as a human. that perception is something the media has taught us no to use when looking at musicians, but that totally cuts off the the music from the human, and if it wasnt for the human dave reilly, we would never had the music.

*hugs to all*

[machine609]

Wow you know it's really about respect. No one is perfect live, we all have our bad days and nights. David was a great singer. Let's leave it at that.

Also you should know that Life in the So Called Space Age was recorded where Jeff and David were staying. Many artists record at home now. With tools liek Pro-Tools, Ableton, Native Instruments, pretty much all of it can be recordedwith professional quality. Alot of the drum parts are programmed also. Which is ok because it is possible to program bad ass drum parts.

But back to the Reilly singing comments. Regardless of opinions again we respect him and what his family is going through right now. Maybe in a year or so people can dissect his singing like this but not now. Plus it is a waste of bandwidth.

[draven]

I agree with Machine..... Also you can't criticize that he wasn't a good singer there are lots of factors that involved that period of time that Dave was living.... In that case then Kurt Cobain is the worst singer.... But yet he pulled it off on Unplugged.... If you ever heard Nirvana play live on some shows due to his factors at that point of time you would know why he couldn't or didn't want to sing the way he wanted to.... So you can't criticize Dave on that one night..... And yes I do agree that his solo stuff is way better than GLU.... BUt there are obvious factors as well that affected his way of singing.... Lyric wise too.... YOu have to understand he was young at that time in GLU and he didn't have much experience in life to write about.... Now he went thru lots of #### in his life that his lyrics expressed what he lived..... So basically that happens to every song writer and singer.... Time and experience makes you better.....

[medicatedtotheoneilove]

I know David Reilly just died, it's a tragedy, it's horrible, but I'm not doing this out of disrespect, I'm doing it out of my critical analytical heart. Did you miss the part where I said I love GLU? I think I'm gonna stop posting about this cause I seem to be making you guys pissed off. This was the wrong time and place to start this conversation.